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		<title>By: lomyloro</title>
		<link>http://www.suhaibwebb.com/summer-nights/unprofessionalism-in-the-muslim-community/comment-page-1/#comment-14013</link>
		<dc:creator>lomyloro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 23:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes. nice post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes. nice post!</p>
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		<title>By: realist</title>
		<link>http://www.suhaibwebb.com/summer-nights/unprofessionalism-in-the-muslim-community/comment-page-1/#comment-13833</link>
		<dc:creator>realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:20:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salam Bro

No offence meant, I just have a strange sense of humor.  I have benefited tremendously from this website, as I am sure have many others; yes you don&#039;t get paid, but Inshallah lots of wealth waiting for you on the other side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam Bro</p>
<p>No offence meant, I just have a strange sense of humor.  I have benefited tremendously from this website, as I am sure have many others; yes you don&#8217;t get paid, but Inshallah lots of wealth waiting for you on the other side.</p>
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		<title>By: realist</title>
		<link>http://www.suhaibwebb.com/summer-nights/unprofessionalism-in-the-muslim-community/comment-page-1/#comment-13832</link>
		<dc:creator>realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salam

So I consider myself a &#039;realist&#039; lol... I agree with you, we should only trust in Allah.  Being realistic means NOT having great expectation of human beings, but only of Allah.  And we are always satisfied with his decree, Alhamdolillah, but that is NOT an excuse for those who don&#039;t come up to the expected standard.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam</p>
<p>So I consider myself a &#8216;realist&#8217; lol&#8230; I agree with you, we should only trust in Allah.  Being realistic means NOT having great expectation of human beings, but only of Allah.  And we are always satisfied with his decree, Alhamdolillah, but that is NOT an excuse for those who don&#8217;t come up to the expected standard.</p>
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		<title>By: abu abdAllah Tariq Ahmed</title>
		<link>http://www.suhaibwebb.com/summer-nights/unprofessionalism-in-the-muslim-community/comment-page-1/#comment-13827</link>
		<dc:creator>abu abdAllah Tariq Ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 06:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jazak Allah khayr for this post, Shaykh Suhaib.  I have to say that as I read from the beginning, I was afraid it was the same person going through all those trials!  Personally, I think this is like the fitnah of bad experiences that many people face who grew up in America/the-West and make hijrah to Muslim countries.

In a sense, it all boils down to expectations.  And I am not just talking about the people who have bad experiences.  I&#039;m also talking about the people who act wrongfully,  they seem to have the expectation that Allah will not hold them to account for how they treat their brothers and sisters in Islam.

Maybe the latter group have no idea of the reckoning on the Day of Judgment, when believing men and women who might otherwise enter Jannat, will find their good deeds parceled out to those they wronged!  May Allah protect us from that fate.  And should good deeds not suffice to right the wrongs, to find that one is encumbered with the wrongs of others!  And thus to be cast into the fire whose fuel is men and stones...  Na&#039;udhobillahi min shururi an fusina wa min sayyiaatinaa!

And which expectations are the best expectations?  The idealists&#039;?  The realists&#039;?  No, those of the ones who place their trust in Allah.  What Allah has given them in this life, they are certain that no one can take it from them except by the Decree of Allah.  And what they cannot attain in this life, they are certain that no one could have given it to them except by the Decree of Allah.  And they are satisfied with His Decree, alhamdolillah alaa kulli haal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jazak Allah khayr for this post, Shaykh Suhaib.  I have to say that as I read from the beginning, I was afraid it was the same person going through all those trials!  Personally, I think this is like the fitnah of bad experiences that many people face who grew up in America/the-West and make hijrah to Muslim countries.</p>
<p>In a sense, it all boils down to expectations.  And I am not just talking about the people who have bad experiences.  I&#8217;m also talking about the people who act wrongfully,  they seem to have the expectation that Allah will not hold them to account for how they treat their brothers and sisters in Islam.</p>
<p>Maybe the latter group have no idea of the reckoning on the Day of Judgment, when believing men and women who might otherwise enter Jannat, will find their good deeds parceled out to those they wronged!  May Allah protect us from that fate.  And should good deeds not suffice to right the wrongs, to find that one is encumbered with the wrongs of others!  And thus to be cast into the fire whose fuel is men and stones&#8230;  Na&#8217;udhobillahi min shururi an fusina wa min sayyiaatinaa!</p>
<p>And which expectations are the best expectations?  The idealists&#8217;?  The realists&#8217;?  No, those of the ones who place their trust in Allah.  What Allah has given them in this life, they are certain that no one can take it from them except by the Decree of Allah.  And what they cannot attain in this life, they are certain that no one could have given it to them except by the Decree of Allah.  And they are satisfied with His Decree, alhamdolillah alaa kulli haal.</p>
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		<title>By: Zubair Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.suhaibwebb.com/summer-nights/unprofessionalism-in-the-muslim-community/comment-page-1/#comment-13826</link>
		<dc:creator>Zubair Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 05:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t get paid nor make money off this website.  And the professionalism came in with us being able to restore a backup and get up and running again (alhumdulillah) instead of just calling it quits. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t get paid nor make money off this website.  And the professionalism came in with us being able to restore a backup and get up and running again (alhumdulillah) instead of just calling it quits. <img src='http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ibnabeeomar</title>
		<link>http://www.suhaibwebb.com/summer-nights/unprofessionalism-in-the-muslim-community/comment-page-1/#comment-13823</link>
		<dc:creator>ibnabeeomar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 21:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>excellent points, jazakallahu khayr. 

One aspect I&#039;d like to add, especially in regards to contract work (design or otherwise) is that there&#039;s also a certain level of non-financial harms that can come from working with Islamic organizations. 

Some people, by simple virtue of paying you for something they consider &quot;should&quot; be free, will automatically raise their expectations to unrealistic levels. Then, if those expectations are not met -- EVEN THOUGH the contract is fulfilled -- they can still ruin a person&#039;s reputation in the community. 

I have heard stories of people who did projects, got paid, the contract was fulfilled on both sides, but still the organization will bad mouth the person saying &quot;he took so much money from us, and now he won&#039;t even x,y,z&quot;

So this is another unfortunate circumstance have to be aware of - every time you do a project for an Islamic organization, not only do you have to watch out for unprofessionalism, but character assassination as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent points, jazakallahu khayr. </p>
<p>One aspect I&#8217;d like to add, especially in regards to contract work (design or otherwise) is that there&#8217;s also a certain level of non-financial harms that can come from working with Islamic organizations. </p>
<p>Some people, by simple virtue of paying you for something they consider &#8220;should&#8221; be free, will automatically raise their expectations to unrealistic levels. Then, if those expectations are not met &#8212; EVEN THOUGH the contract is fulfilled &#8212; they can still ruin a person&#8217;s reputation in the community. </p>
<p>I have heard stories of people who did projects, got paid, the contract was fulfilled on both sides, but still the organization will bad mouth the person saying &#8220;he took so much money from us, and now he won&#8217;t even x,y,z&#8221;</p>
<p>So this is another unfortunate circumstance have to be aware of &#8211; every time you do a project for an Islamic organization, not only do you have to watch out for unprofessionalism, but character assassination as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Unprofessionalism in the Muslim Community &#8212; WorkHalal.com Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unprofessionalism in the Muslim Community &#8212; WorkHalal.com Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: realist</title>
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		<dc:creator>realist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salam

Lol, the irony of announcing deleting an entire website on a post about unprofessionalism!  Just kidding, of course I deeply respect the work of all the brothers and sisters on this site!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salam</p>
<p>Lol, the irony of announcing deleting an entire website on a post about unprofessionalism!  Just kidding, of course I deeply respect the work of all the brothers and sisters on this site!</p>
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		<title>By: Zubair Khan</title>
		<link>http://www.suhaibwebb.com/summer-nights/unprofessionalism-in-the-muslim-community/comment-page-1/#comment-13820</link>
		<dc:creator>Zubair Khan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 07:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Abu Muawiyah -

We didn&#039;t delete your comments.  The entire suhaibwebb.com website accidentally got deleted a few hours ago so we had to restore a backup.  The backup was from last night so we lost the recent comments!  We are extremely sorry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Abu Muawiyah -</p>
<p>We didn&#8217;t delete your comments.  The entire <a href="http://suhaibwebb.com" title="http://suhaibwebb.com" class="autohyperlink" target="_blank">suhaibwebb.com</a> website accidentally got deleted a few hours ago so we had to restore a backup.  The backup was from last night so we lost the recent comments!  We are extremely sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Abu Muawiyah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abu Muawiyah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 06:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why was my comment deleted? What did I say wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why was my comment deleted? What did I say wrong?</p>
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