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		<title>By: UK Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/what-is-virginity-worth-today/comment-page-1/#comment-9944</link>
		<dc:creator>UK Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 11:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think that we should disregard the sins that we commit, otherwise it may become a normality. we should not condemn people, because Allah guides who He wills, but we should condemn abusive, illicit and damaging behaviours that affect our communities, and at the same time try to find ways of teaching people a better way, and ask Allah for tawfeeq and protection.

fi amanillah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think that we should disregard the sins that we commit, otherwise it may become a normality. we should not condemn people, because Allah guides who He wills, but we should condemn abusive, illicit and damaging behaviours that affect our communities, and at the same time try to find ways of teaching people a better way, and ask Allah for tawfeeq and protection.</p>
<p>fi amanillah</p>
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		<title>By: ...</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Mr Sohaib Webb. &quot;Condemning folks is one thing, building folks, teaching and learning is another.&quot; Indeed T&#039;is true !!!  I agree we should all be teaching and advising one another, disregarding the sins we commit, as well all do it. Daily. 

looool at your 5 year old singing &quot;smack that&quot; .  Shouldn&#039;t be laughing as yeah i agree the song is filth..Sorry though couldn&#039;t help but laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Mr Sohaib Webb. &#8220;Condemning folks is one thing, building folks, teaching and learning is another.&#8221; Indeed T&#8217;is true !!!  I agree we should all be teaching and advising one another, disregarding the sins we commit, as well all do it. Daily. </p>
<p>looool at your 5 year old singing &#8220;smack that&#8221; .  Shouldn&#8217;t be laughing as yeah i agree the song is filth..Sorry though couldn&#8217;t help but laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: d</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 15:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>asalaamu alaykum, what one normally finds when people are discussing an issue such as the one above, is that woman woman woman, comes up time and time again. i really think we should also be bothered that there are men out there who  would take, for want of a better turm someones verginaty then just abandon her. it is i would say like the chicken and egg situation as they say. i mean, if no men were prepaired to pay for sexual &quot;services&quot;, then no women would be able to &quot;sell&quot; them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>asalaamu alaykum, what one normally finds when people are discussing an issue such as the one above, is that woman woman woman, comes up time and time again. i really think we should also be bothered that there are men out there who  would take, for want of a better turm someones verginaty then just abandon her. it is i would say like the chicken and egg situation as they say. i mean, if no men were prepaired to pay for sexual &#8220;services&#8221;, then no women would be able to &#8220;sell&#8221; them.</p>
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		<title>By: mulismah</title>
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		<dc:creator>mulismah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 15:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>salaam

ok I totally agree that this is an important topic but I do think the fact that the brothers and sisters brought up that particular situation in Saudia Arabis is extremely important. This is because as a Muslim we belielve this is wrong. I believe it is wrong. But does Islam say its really wrong? This situation has disturbed me ALOT. Because I have read that Islamically that the father can arrange the marriage WITHOUT CONSENT (yes many scholars dont want to say this) although i read in pro islamic site if the age is before puberty. Another thing it bothers me soooooo much is because men sometimes do Not make the right decision for their child while women do. MOthers maybe smarter at this so It doesnt make sense that if she does not approve it can still go through! All these Islamic rulings REALLY BOTHER ME. 

plz explain!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>salaam</p>
<p>ok I totally agree that this is an important topic but I do think the fact that the brothers and sisters brought up that particular situation in Saudia Arabis is extremely important. This is because as a Muslim we belielve this is wrong. I believe it is wrong. But does Islam say its really wrong? This situation has disturbed me ALOT. Because I have read that Islamically that the father can arrange the marriage WITHOUT CONSENT (yes many scholars dont want to say this) although i read in pro islamic site if the age is before puberty. Another thing it bothers me soooooo much is because men sometimes do Not make the right decision for their child while women do. MOthers maybe smarter at this so It doesnt make sense that if she does not approve it can still go through! All these Islamic rulings REALLY BOTHER ME. </p>
<p>plz explain!</p>
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		<title>By: UK Resident</title>
		<link>http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/what-is-virginity-worth-today/comment-page-1/#comment-9059</link>
		<dc:creator>UK Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 10:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a woman, I&#039;m very shocked that any female would put a price on her dignity, self-respect and worth. How will she feel afterwards

I pray that the Muslim Ummah is protected from such immorality. May Allah guide these people.

Alhamdulillah for the blessing of Islam, and for the rights and protection that Allah (swt) has given us women, to be valued and honoured.

Fi amanillah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a woman, I&#8217;m very shocked that any female would put a price on her dignity, self-respect and worth. How will she feel afterwards</p>
<p>I pray that the Muslim Ummah is protected from such immorality. May Allah guide these people.</p>
<p>Alhamdulillah for the blessing of Islam, and for the rights and protection that Allah (swt) has given us women, to be valued and honoured.</p>
<p>Fi amanillah</p>
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		<title>By: Abdullah Hasan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abdullah Hasan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#039;ta&#039;llamtu ash shar laysay li sharrihi walakin litawaqqihi.......&#039;

As a poet said, I studied evil, not for the sake of it but to protect myself from it. For how many people fall prey to evil due to their ingonarance of it&#039;

or something to that effect.

wslm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;ta&#8217;llamtu ash shar laysay li sharrihi walakin litawaqqihi&#8230;&#8230;.&#8217;</p>
<p>As a poet said, I studied evil, not for the sake of it but to protect myself from it. For how many people fall prey to evil due to their ingonarance of it&#8217;</p>
<p>or something to that effect.</p>
<p>wslm</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As salamu alaikum,

I understand the shock, but I do not think that we should put so much emphasis on the woman selling her virginity. The most troubling part to me is her not wanting anything to do with the guy after they have sex. She is holding this position despite offers from men to be her boyfriend (of course should not be an option for muslims) or even marry her.

I do not think we would be making as big of an uproar if she was sincerely looking for a husband and planned to stay with him. Even if she was a muslim and stipulated she would not marry unless her mahr was at least $4 million could we really say anything?

Putting such an emphasis on virginity and not the manner in which virginity should be &#039;lost&#039; (for lack of a better term) does not really help the youth. We tell our young people to preserve themselves but do not equip them with the proper methods for pursuing marriage. Eventually the competing pressures of hormones and wanting to do avoid sin will meet. 

wassalamu alaikum,
Jeremiah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As salamu alaikum,</p>
<p>I understand the shock, but I do not think that we should put so much emphasis on the woman selling her virginity. The most troubling part to me is her not wanting anything to do with the guy after they have sex. She is holding this position despite offers from men to be her boyfriend (of course should not be an option for muslims) or even marry her.</p>
<p>I do not think we would be making as big of an uproar if she was sincerely looking for a husband and planned to stay with him. Even if she was a muslim and stipulated she would not marry unless her mahr was at least $4 million could we really say anything?</p>
<p>Putting such an emphasis on virginity and not the manner in which virginity should be &#8216;lost&#8217; (for lack of a better term) does not really help the youth. We tell our young people to preserve themselves but do not equip them with the proper methods for pursuing marriage. Eventually the competing pressures of hormones and wanting to do avoid sin will meet. </p>
<p>wassalamu alaikum,<br />
Jeremiah</p>
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		<title>By: Suhaib Webb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Suhaib Webb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:59:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asalamu alaykum,

&quot;Lets not waste time sitting on the desk wondering why a blind woman can do such a thing.&quot;

Moaz:

I would have to differ with your contention and your usage of the verses mentioned above. The Prophet [sa] mentioned the plight of a group of people on a ship, some on the deck and the others on the bottom. The latter were thirsty and kept asking the people on the deck for water. After a large number of unanswered requests, the people on the bottom decided to drill a hole in the ship for water. I&#039;m sure you can guess what happened. 

Being aware of things going on in one&#039;s society, developing remedies for those problems in light of the correct creed was the mission of the Prophets and the mission of this community. The Prophet was well versed with the happenings in his community and the Qur&#039;an mentions some of the more outrageous actions of the Pagans that lived amongst the Prophet, many suitable for the likes of the Sun, &quot;And when the girl is asked why she was killed.&quot; 

Muslims cannot continue to live in self righteous caves, and many who have tried, lost their children and friends because they were unable to understand what their kids and friends were going through. I found my son, and we live in Egypt, singing &quot;Smack Dhat&quot; by Akon. I was astonished that he, at five years old, could have known about this filth. I sat down with him we talked and now he&#039;s singing his ABC&#039;s. It is important for us to follow the filth, just try our best not to get our clothes soiled. 

Condemning folks is one thing, building folks, teaching and learning is another.


SDW</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asalamu alaykum,</p>
<p>&#8220;Lets not waste time sitting on the desk wondering why a blind woman can do such a thing.&#8221;</p>
<p>Moaz:</p>
<p>I would have to differ with your contention and your usage of the verses mentioned above. The Prophet [sa] mentioned the plight of a group of people on a ship, some on the deck and the others on the bottom. The latter were thirsty and kept asking the people on the deck for water. After a large number of unanswered requests, the people on the bottom decided to drill a hole in the ship for water. I&#8217;m sure you can guess what happened. </p>
<p>Being aware of things going on in one&#8217;s society, developing remedies for those problems in light of the correct creed was the mission of the Prophets and the mission of this community. The Prophet was well versed with the happenings in his community and the Qur&#8217;an mentions some of the more outrageous actions of the Pagans that lived amongst the Prophet, many suitable for the likes of the Sun, &#8220;And when the girl is asked why she was killed.&#8221; </p>
<p>Muslims cannot continue to live in self righteous caves, and many who have tried, lost their children and friends because they were unable to understand what their kids and friends were going through. I found my son, and we live in Egypt, singing &#8220;Smack Dhat&#8221; by Akon. I was astonished that he, at five years old, could have known about this filth. I sat down with him we talked and now he&#8217;s singing his ABC&#8217;s. It is important for us to follow the filth, just try our best not to get our clothes soiled. </p>
<p>Condemning folks is one thing, building folks, teaching and learning is another.</p>
<p>SDW</p>
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		<title>By: Moaz</title>
		<link>http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/what-is-virginity-worth-today/comment-page-1/#comment-8883</link>
		<dc:creator>Moaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The lesson we can learn from this is that we must be careful in this world.  We should all seek refuge from allah to protect us from all these fitna.  Each one of us can fall in this evil and cursed path from a single wisper of sheytan.  

Lets all renew our guidance from our lord and serve him rather then some dummies who cant even give a worthy price for such preciousness.  Our lord has promised a fortune that is greater then $4 million. A fortune given to those whom obey him.


34) And remember what is recited in your houses of the signs of Allah and His wisdom Undoubtedly, Allah knows every subtlety, is Aware 

35) Undoubtedly, Muslims men and women, and the be lieving men and women, and obedient men and women and truthful men and women and enduring men and women and humble men and women, and almsgiving men and women and fasting men and women, and men and women who guard their chastity and men and women who remember Allah much, for all of them Allah has kept prepared forgiveness and great reward. 

36) And it is not befitting to a Muslim man or Muslim woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed something that they would have any choice in their matters, and whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he undoubtedly, has strayed away manifestly. 

----Surah Al-Ahzab

Lets not be fools like the fools before us of whom Allah destroyed.  Our lord is always watching for he is the All Hearer and All Knower. Lets not make the same grave mistakes of which this lady and the majority of the western world are making.  This is one of the many signs of the day of judgment.  The day is coming even closer by the second.  The angel has his lips ready on the horn.  Lets not waste time sitting on the desk wondering why a blind woman can do such a thing.  We should all repent to our lord and replace all the bad deeds we may have committed with good ones.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The lesson we can learn from this is that we must be careful in this world.  We should all seek refuge from allah to protect us from all these fitna.  Each one of us can fall in this evil and cursed path from a single wisper of sheytan.  </p>
<p>Lets all renew our guidance from our lord and serve him rather then some dummies who cant even give a worthy price for such preciousness.  Our lord has promised a fortune that is greater then $4 million. A fortune given to those whom obey him.</p>
<p>34) And remember what is recited in your houses of the signs of Allah and His wisdom Undoubtedly, Allah knows every subtlety, is Aware </p>
<p>35) Undoubtedly, Muslims men and women, and the be lieving men and women, and obedient men and women and truthful men and women and enduring men and women and humble men and women, and almsgiving men and women and fasting men and women, and men and women who guard their chastity and men and women who remember Allah much, for all of them Allah has kept prepared forgiveness and great reward. </p>
<p>36) And it is not befitting to a Muslim man or Muslim woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed something that they would have any choice in their matters, and whoever disobeys Allah and His Messenger, he undoubtedly, has strayed away manifestly. </p>
<p>&#8212;-Surah Al-Ahzab</p>
<p>Lets not be fools like the fools before us of whom Allah destroyed.  Our lord is always watching for he is the All Hearer and All Knower. Lets not make the same grave mistakes of which this lady and the majority of the western world are making.  This is one of the many signs of the day of judgment.  The day is coming even closer by the second.  The angel has his lips ready on the horn.  Lets not waste time sitting on the desk wondering why a blind woman can do such a thing.  We should all repent to our lord and replace all the bad deeds we may have committed with good ones.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 00:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Asim!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Asim!</p>
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