Comments on: The Fall and Rise of the Islamic State Noah Feldman, Joanne J. Myers http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/the-fall-and-rise-of-the-islamic-state-noah-feldman-joanne-j-myers/#utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-fall-and-rise-of-the-islamic-state-noah-feldman-joanne-j-myers audio, discussions, translations and musings Tue, 07 Sep 2010 04:05:05 -0700 hourly 1 By: shakib http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/the-fall-and-rise-of-the-islamic-state-noah-feldman-joanne-j-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-7000 shakib Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:42:17 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=2406#comment-7000 in this book 'after jihad' feldman (2003) argues that islam and democracy are perfectly compatible and shares properties of any great ideas: mobility, generalizability and adaptability. he provides an impressive case study of a wide array of constitutional analysis from morocco to indonesia to support his view that like any other great idea of human civilization islam susceptible to change and adaptation. his 'bernardian' view of political islam (islamism, islamist and radical islam) weakened his assertions that a hybrid legislation based on the liberal teaching of all great ideas, be they islamic or western will be legitimate in iraq. his enthusiasm with shariah was akin to the historians rediscovery of a body of jurisprudence after nepolean's invasion of egypt in 1812. after jihad sounded more like an 'end of time' caricature of islamic political movements. in his new book, which i haven't read yet, he seems to have learnt from the heady days of the post-invasion hyperboles he jotted in his early work. he seems to be advocating that there is no easy fix to the dilemmas posed by the free-mixing of ideas he purported, predicating its success to the rise of some non-existent institututions that is inclusive and innately islamic. he seemed to have moved away from asserting that an islamically spirited legislature, backed by a strong executive power, the kind of constitutional abberations US has supported globally, would work in iraq. he is now promoting a painstaking process of institution building that would give voice back to the ulemas who were marginalized in the colonial birth of many islamic republics. i think he has managed to frame the question of what constitutes rule of law to western governments more than the modern islamic governments he analyzed which seem to have failed to uphold rule of law despite its process of codification. in this book ‘after jihad’ feldman (2003) argues that islam and democracy are perfectly compatible and shares properties of any great ideas: mobility, generalizability and adaptability. he provides an impressive case study of a wide array of constitutional analysis from morocco to indonesia to support his view that like any other great idea of human civilization islam susceptible to change and adaptation. his ‘bernardian’ view of political islam (islamism, islamist and radical islam) weakened his assertions that a hybrid legislation based on the liberal teaching of all great ideas, be they islamic or western will be legitimate in iraq. his enthusiasm with shariah was akin to the historians rediscovery of a body of jurisprudence after nepolean’s invasion of egypt in 1812. after jihad sounded more like an ‘end of time’ caricature of islamic political movements.

in his new book, which i haven’t read yet, he seems to have learnt from the heady days of the post-invasion hyperboles he jotted in his early work. he seems to be advocating that there is no easy fix to the dilemmas posed by the free-mixing of ideas he purported, predicating its success to the rise of some non-existent institututions that is inclusive and innately islamic. he seemed to have moved away from asserting that an islamically spirited legislature, backed by a strong executive power, the kind of constitutional abberations US has supported globally, would work in iraq. he is now promoting a painstaking process of institution building that would give voice back to the ulemas who were marginalized in the colonial birth of many islamic republics. i think he has managed to frame the question of what constitutes rule of law to western governments more than the modern islamic governments he analyzed which seem to have failed to uphold rule of law despite its process of codification.

]]> By: Abdurahman http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/the-fall-and-rise-of-the-islamic-state-noah-feldman-joanne-j-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-6990 Abdurahman Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:32:46 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=2406#comment-6990 Asalamualaikum wrt wb, All praise be to Allah. I am somewhat puzzled by Mr. Feldman's position on Shariah. On the one hand, he says he is optitmistic, and if you read his New York Times piece, it was very positive, but then he says he does not advocate Shariah. Allahu alim, but it seems to me that deep down he recognizes the beauty and applicability of Shariah, but fears being chastised by powerful orientalists like Bernard Lewis and others. For any academic in the West to make a case for Shariah in a modern context takes tremendous courage. May Allah guide him to realize that Shariah is the most wise solution to all of humanities problems, since it is from God, who is perfect, and to use him to stand up to those who oppose Shariah since they are, in fact, opposing God Himself. Asalamualaikum wrt wb,

All praise be to Allah. I am somewhat puzzled by Mr. Feldman’s position on Shariah. On the one hand, he says he is optitmistic, and if you read his New York Times piece, it was very positive, but then he says he does not advocate Shariah.

Allahu alim, but it seems to me that deep down he recognizes the beauty and applicability of Shariah, but fears being chastised by powerful orientalists like Bernard Lewis and others. For any academic in the West to make a case for Shariah in a modern context takes tremendous courage.

May Allah guide him to realize that Shariah is the most wise solution to all of humanities problems, since it is from God, who is perfect, and to use him to stand up to those who oppose Shariah since they are, in fact, opposing God Himself.

]]> By: Asim http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/the-fall-and-rise-of-the-islamic-state-noah-feldman-joanne-j-myers/comment-page-1/#comment-6983 Asim Thu, 16 Oct 2008 07:00:05 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=2406#comment-6983 Interesting read. I read about the first couple pages of the article or so. Looks like a fascinating book. Is there a source for this article? Interesting read. I read about the first couple pages of the article or so. Looks like a fascinating book.

Is there a source for this article?

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