You’re thinking of the philosopher ibn Rushd – this is another ibn Rushd.

A word of advise to myself and to you. We should be careful in calling anyone a heretic. Firstly, take a look at our own Ilm, do we have the ability to distinguish who is on the Haqq and who is not? How many of the authors books have we read or understood etc.

please look at his bio.

http://www.bysiness.co.uk/ulemah/bioibnrushd.htm

look at how Imam Dhahabi honoured his status.

Please let us really be careful that our Islamic affiliation and bias do not cause us to be unjust and reject a whole group from the Ulema.

I have pulled out the following text from a Muslim (rA) hadeeth from this site: http://www.ummah.net/Al_adaab/hadith/muslim/had17.html – I understand that this is just a translation, but I don’t have access to the arabic:

“Chapter 5: HE WHO CONFESSES HIS GUILT OF ADULTERY Book 017, Number 4196: Abu Huraira reported that a person from amongst the Muslims came to Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) while he was in the mosque. He called him saying: Allah’s Messenger. I have committed adultery. He (the Holy Prophet) turned away from him, He (again) came round facing him and said to him: Allah’s Messenger, I have committed adultery. He (the Holy Prophet) turned away until he did that four times, and as he testified four times against his own self, Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) called him and said: Are you mad? He said: No. He (again) said: Are you married? He said: Yes.

Thereupon Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Take him and stone him. Ibn Shihab (one of the narrators) said: One who had heard Jabir b. ‘Abdullah saying this informed me thus: I was one of those who stoned him.

We stoned him at the place of prayer (either that of ‘Id or a funeral). When the stones hurt him, he ran away. We caught him in the Harra and stoned him (to death). This hadith has been narrated through another chain of transmitters.”

Wassalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuhu.

Zeeshan:

Thanks for stopping by and commenting. I was hoping someone would notice that nitch in the Qiyas used by some scholars to prove this point. I myself made the same observation and would love it if a deeper discussion could develop. As for the woman and the witnesses, I would appreciate it if you could bring the actual text to the table so we could discuss it.

SDW

Angie: keep in mind that Egypt was under, more or less, Turkish rule for a very long period of time. With the rule came the school and it has stayed that way at least from the political spectrum. In fact, up until the 1950′s, the only madhab’s taught in al-Azhar were the Hanafi and Maliki.

SDW

Jazaka Allahu Khaira for the clarification. However, I’d like to point out that the last two points of this blog aren’t strictly comparable to the divorcing 3 times. i.e. if someone said ‘I divorce you, I divorce you, I divorce you’, surely this is different to ‘I divorce you 3 times’. If it were the same, then our dhikr of saying subhanallah, alhamdulillah and allahuakbar x times after prayer would fold up into 1, no?

Also about the first point (I swear by Allah twenty times…), isn’t there the tradition of the man/woman (excuse my ignorance) who confessed to the prophet 3 times that he/she committed zina, and he turned away each time, but in the end had to take the witness – doesn’t that show that someone can bear witness more than once, in certain circumstances?

Just a couple of thoughts

Wa Salaam

“Egypt’s current law is based on the Hanafi madhab. However, its divorce law is based on the fatwa of Ibn Taymiyyah [ra].”

because during my trips to Egypt and via my own family observations I feel like Egypt tends to be more shafi`i than hanafi in their religious rulings (non-governmental obviously) but yet their legal marriage procedures take place via a hanafi methodology..

subhan Allah, made me think.