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	<title>Comments on: God: Leap of Faith?</title>
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		<title>By: Naim Hussain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Naim Hussain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The idea is that if you do not think clearly, God will not make sense to you. And I think that is what the author tried to emphasize here. Jazakallah khayr.

P.S: The last line was just too good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The idea is that if you do not think clearly, God will not make sense to you. And I think that is what the author tried to emphasize here. Jazakallah khayr.</p>
<p>P.S: The last line was just too good!</p>
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		<title>By: h. ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>h. ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 04:35:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as salaam alaikum

Yusuf,  I believe you making gross generalizations. Arguing the existence of God is not futile. Our deen is vast - and people&#039;s hearts open up in different ways. For some people, as the likes of Dr. Zakir Naik and the late Ahmed Deedat have attracted thousands of people to The Truth via these methods.

Belief is sparked only through the hearts. Allah (swt) guides and misguides whomsoever he wills. And I sincerely believe - that all people - once they are able to purify and clean their darkened, stained hearts - and sincerely turn to The Divine, can and will become believers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as salaam alaikum</p>
<p>Yusuf,  I believe you making gross generalizations. Arguing the existence of God is not futile. Our deen is vast &#8211; and people&#8217;s hearts open up in different ways. For some people, as the likes of Dr. Zakir Naik and the late Ahmed Deedat have attracted thousands of people to The Truth via these methods.</p>
<p>Belief is sparked only through the hearts. Allah (swt) guides and misguides whomsoever he wills. And I sincerely believe &#8211; that all people &#8211; once they are able to purify and clean their darkened, stained hearts &#8211; and sincerely turn to The Divine, can and will become believers.</p>
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		<title>By: faisal</title>
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		<dc:creator>faisal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:02:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also think belief in Islam/religion requires faith...it&#039;s not a purely logical thing. Why else would Allah (SWT) guide &quot;those who believe in the unseen&quot;? Clearly the implication is that that is of value, worth the reward of guidance. I am not saying faith in God is illogical, but that it is not as simple as 2 + 2...if it was, we would not need Messengers.

On the other hand, I can understand your argument if you say believing in Allah is rational, while the things that require faith (and are thus worth reward/guidance) are things like the akhirah, yawm al qiyamah etc., and it is for that reason that the Books/Messengers were sent.

Nonetheless, good article. JAK for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also think belief in Islam/religion requires faith&#8230;it&#8217;s not a purely logical thing. Why else would Allah (SWT) guide &#8220;those who believe in the unseen&#8221;? Clearly the implication is that that is of value, worth the reward of guidance. I am not saying faith in God is illogical, but that it is not as simple as 2 + 2&#8230;if it was, we would not need Messengers.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I can understand your argument if you say believing in Allah is rational, while the things that require faith (and are thus worth reward/guidance) are things like the akhirah, yawm al qiyamah etc., and it is for that reason that the Books/Messengers were sent.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, good article. JAK for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Yousuf Haq</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yousuf Haq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot agree with you.

 I do to believe in God(SWT) but i believe it DOES require large amounts of faith. For the kafr (non-believers) this may be coined &quot;leap&quot; because they lack the understanding and thus feel far from belief. Thus if we were to quantify faith (virtually impossible) we can say that they have little. In relation to a believer who has a great amount. 

Perhaps a more accurate statement would be: an unbeliever requires 1 step towards a belief in God. A small morsel, an atoms weight, or a notion of a belief. God takes 10 forward. 

The problem with kafrs is that God(SWT) doesn&#039;t make sense. So you can&#039;t ask them to believe that or even state that they should do what make sense. For what is sense? Is it the duality of the mind? Rapid Intuition working in tandem with a logical reasoning mind? Perhaps a definition of &quot;sense&quot; is needed. 

Rather kafiroon might rely on other alternative paradigms (belief system). 

1. Science as an explainer of cause/effect and predictor of behavior. 
2. Another diety
3. all other forms of religion that are non-Islamic. 

Arguing the existence of God is a futile and deadly jihad. Its what Philosophy is fundamentally about. 

The real question we should be asking ourselves is:  How do we Spark Belief?
because there are:
1. believers.
2. non-believers
3. believers with potential to change 
4. non-believers with potential to change 

Jazakhalla khair everyone</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot agree with you.</p>
<p> I do to believe in God(SWT) but i believe it DOES require large amounts of faith. For the kafr (non-believers) this may be coined &#8220;leap&#8221; because they lack the understanding and thus feel far from belief. Thus if we were to quantify faith (virtually impossible) we can say that they have little. In relation to a believer who has a great amount. </p>
<p>Perhaps a more accurate statement would be: an unbeliever requires 1 step towards a belief in God. A small morsel, an atoms weight, or a notion of a belief. God takes 10 forward. </p>
<p>The problem with kafrs is that God(SWT) doesn&#8217;t make sense. So you can&#8217;t ask them to believe that or even state that they should do what make sense. For what is sense? Is it the duality of the mind? Rapid Intuition working in tandem with a logical reasoning mind? Perhaps a definition of &#8220;sense&#8221; is needed. </p>
<p>Rather kafiroon might rely on other alternative paradigms (belief system). </p>
<p>1. Science as an explainer of cause/effect and predictor of behavior.<br />
2. Another diety<br />
3. all other forms of religion that are non-Islamic. </p>
<p>Arguing the existence of God is a futile and deadly jihad. Its what Philosophy is fundamentally about. </p>
<p>The real question we should be asking ourselves is:  How do we Spark Belief?<br />
because there are:<br />
1. believers.<br />
2. non-believers<br />
3. believers with potential to change<br />
4. non-believers with potential to change </p>
<p>Jazakhalla khair everyone</p>
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		<title>By: T.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of TJ Winter&#039;s contentions:

Belief in God begins when we cease to believe in ourselves.

Much denial of the existence of God has to do with the certainty and confidence we have in the power of our abilities.  When we begin to become skeptical of ourselves, we begin to hit at the core of our nafs, and then we begin to see beyond ourselves and notice the attributes of God around us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of TJ Winter&#8217;s contentions:</p>
<p>Belief in God begins when we cease to believe in ourselves.</p>
<p>Much denial of the existence of God has to do with the certainty and confidence we have in the power of our abilities.  When we begin to become skeptical of ourselves, we begin to hit at the core of our nafs, and then we begin to see beyond ourselves and notice the attributes of God around us.</p>
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		<title>By: Mustafa Umar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mustafa Umar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could not agree more. While Harun Yahya has some good research, arguing against microevolution is definitely not a good thing to do. I just gave another presentation on evolution tonight and made sure to emphasize this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could not agree more. While Harun Yahya has some good research, arguing against microevolution is definitely not a good thing to do. I just gave another presentation on evolution tonight and made sure to emphasize this point.</p>
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		<title>By: h. ahmed</title>
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		<dc:creator>h. ahmed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jazakallah khair for sharing!

This is where the evolution/scienticsm vs. religion debate comes down to - what you want to have &#039;faith&#039; in - randomness &amp; chance or The Divine.  

Lets not confuse this with arguing against microevolution and the type of &#039;science&#039; advocated by the likes of Harun Yahya - which is not only flawed but at times very embarassing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jazakallah khair for sharing!</p>
<p>This is where the evolution/scienticsm vs. religion debate comes down to &#8211; what you want to have &#8216;faith&#8217; in &#8211; randomness &amp; chance or The Divine.  </p>
<p>Lets not confuse this with arguing against microevolution and the type of &#8216;science&#8217; advocated by the likes of Harun Yahya &#8211; which is not only flawed but at times very embarassing.</p>
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