Comments on: Convert Outflux? http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/convert-outflux/ Your Virtual Mosque Thu, 09 Feb 2012 05:21:17 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: FrancisHG http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/convert-outflux/comment-page-1/#comment-11218 FrancisHG Thu, 30 Apr 2009 07:55:01 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=3715#comment-11218 Honestly this article brings some points to light, while I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with others. As someone who was not born muslim (a 'convert') I sort of agree that the "community" can be alittle... exclusive and non-inviting, but my actions are for the sake of Allah alone, sure community outreach is nice, but a strong belief is way more important. Besides, most of the mosques I goto everyone is friendly, and i quite often socialize with people, but there are some east-west social differences that can cause separation. I find myself in the middle socially, but its not easy for new converts to find this balance, or want it.<br><br>asalaam alaikum Brs n Srs Honestly this article brings some points to light, while I'm not quite sure what you're getting at with others. As someone who was not born muslim (a 'convert') I sort of agree that the “community” can be alittle… exclusive and non-inviting, but my actions are for the sake of Allah alone, sure community outreach is nice, but a strong belief is way more important. Besides, most of the mosques I goto everyone is friendly, and i quite often socialize with people, but there are some east-west social differences that can cause separation. I find myself in the middle socially, but its not easy for new converts to find this balance, or want it.

asalaam alaikum Brs n Srs

]]> By: Suhaib Webb http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/convert-outflux/comment-page-1/#comment-10453 Suhaib Webb Mon, 30 Mar 2009 06:26:31 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=3715#comment-10453 Asalamu alaykum,<br><br>Nomad:<br><br>As I know, Mr. Askandarani is Mrs. Askandarani. By the way, Shami fool is nasty. Come to Misr and we'll give you some Fool Shaqshukah! <br><br>من يأكل الفول فإنه فول<br><br>صهيب Asalamu alaykum,

Nomad:

As I know, Mr. Askandarani is Mrs. Askandarani. By the way, Shami fool is nasty. Come to Misr and we'll give you some Fool Shaqshukah!

من يأكل الفول فإنه فول

صهيب

]]> By: awbenna http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/convert-outflux/comment-page-1/#comment-10410 awbenna Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:30:29 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=3715#comment-10410 قل لا تمنوا عليّ إسلامكم... ألاية قل لا تمنوا عليّ إسلامكم… ألاية

]]> By: Fatima Zaman http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/convert-outflux/comment-page-1/#comment-10367 Fatima Zaman Wed, 25 Mar 2009 16:10:48 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=3715#comment-10367 Its true, instead of us trying to empower muslims we sort of make them feel the need to back off from their din. I hope we stop this for every muslim brother or sister and we dont push them away from islam by being rude to these persons. It is our duty to help eachother grow in islam, or help just in general with whatever someone needs but One thing we do wrong is push people away from learning more about the religion instead of them wanting to know more about the din. Its true, instead of us trying to empower muslims we sort of make them feel the need to back off from their din. I hope we stop this for every muslim brother or sister and we dont push them away from islam by being rude to these persons. It is our duty to help eachother grow in islam, or help just in general with whatever someone needs but One thing we do wrong is push people away from learning more about the religion instead of them wanting to know more about the din.

]]> By: Dawud Israel http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/convert-outflux/comment-page-1/#comment-10340 Dawud Israel Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:03:25 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=3715#comment-10340 Yeah I just found out unfortunately... it's less a matter of haram/halal and more a matter of "astafti kalbak"-- heart just plain not feeling comfortable. <br><br>My previous post was censored so I don't expect this to be posted, but nonetheless want to make sure there are no hard feelings. I was honestly very surprised how badly yourself and everyone took my words. The thing with the internet is it is so fragmentary, that if this discussion were in person, bit by bit, I doubt you would see it as such. Once again my sincerest apologies...I thought I was only stating what everyone--whether they be convert or immigrant--was thinking. Guess not. <br><br>I would request you to also consider the following, to show the other side of this rap discussion: <br><a href="http://deentight.com/Trailers.html" rel="nofollow">http://deentight.com/Trailers.html</a><br><a href="http://muslimfreak.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://muslimfreak.wordpress.com/</a><br><br>I may post something on my blog to try and explore the sociology of the immigrant/convert discussion, and try to find some benefit out of it after talking to some converts. Until then, my apologies. Yeah I just found out unfortunately… it's less a matter of haram/halal and more a matter of “astafti kalbak”– heart just plain not feeling comfortable.

My previous post was censored so I don't expect this to be posted, but nonetheless want to make sure there are no hard feelings. I was honestly very surprised how badly yourself and everyone took my words. The thing with the internet is it is so fragmentary, that if this discussion were in person, bit by bit, I doubt you would see it as such. Once again my sincerest apologies…I thought I was only stating what everyone–whether they be convert or immigrant–was thinking. Guess not.

I would request you to also consider the following, to show the other side of this rap discussion:
http://deentight.com/Trailers.html
http://muslimfreak.wordpress.com/

I may post something on my blog to try and explore the sociology of the immigrant/convert discussion, and try to find some benefit out of it after talking to some converts. Until then, my apologies.

]]> By: ConvertOf2Years http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/convert-outflux/comment-page-1/#comment-10319 ConvertOf2Years Mon, 23 Mar 2009 20:51:17 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=3715#comment-10319 As for the "thicker skin" comments, I can understand that in light of living in the land of non-Muslims...But should that be case within our OWN communites? I thought we were supposed to feel comfortable and at ease within the mosques. But often instead, there's this air of conforming and meeting the staus quo. It's sort of an uspoken rule, but it is very real. I cannot believe the calloused nature of some of these comments. Do you think that our Holy Prophet(pbuh) would address anyone with that kind of tone? Even the disbelievers in Mekkah he did not treat less than human. And because of his dawah(saw), by Allah's will, some of them became Muslim. <br><br>When I think about our Prophet(saw) it brings tears to my eyes, because his character is what drew me to Islam. He did not judge people, he treated every human being with dignity, no matter what their past, or current state, and he uplifted and empowered people. He never advised people out of a need to fuel his own ego. And the early converts were people who were the down-trodden, the ones who had nothing to lose. They weren't superficial people like many of us are today, abosrbed with the outward, and inwardly void. <br><br>It pains me to think about standing in front of Allah(swt) and His Messenger on the Day of Judgement... When he(saw) intercedes for us, will we be ashamed of how we represented his legacy, and this beautiful Deen he passed down to us?<br><br>In dealing with our brothers and sisters, we should ask ourselves...How would the Prophet Muhammad(saw) carry himself in this situation? Remove our own nafs and our ego, and strive simply to act in a beautiful way, with hikma, as he(saw) would. And this advice is more to myself, than to anyone else.<br><br>May Allah(swt) place compassion in our hearts... As for the “thicker skin” comments, I can understand that in light of living in the land of non-Muslims…But should that be case within our OWN communites? I thought we were supposed to feel comfortable and at ease within the mosques. But often instead, there's this air of conforming and meeting the staus quo. It's sort of an uspoken rule, but it is very real. I cannot believe the calloused nature of some of these comments. Do you think that our Holy Prophet(pbuh) would address anyone with that kind of tone? Even the disbelievers in Mekkah he did not treat less than human. And because of his dawah(saw), by Allah's will, some of them became Muslim.

When I think about our Prophet(saw) it brings tears to my eyes, because his character is what drew me to Islam. He did not judge people, he treated every human being with dignity, no matter what their past, or current state, and he uplifted and empowered people. He never advised people out of a need to fuel his own ego. And the early converts were people who were the down-trodden, the ones who had nothing to lose. They weren't superficial people like many of us are today, abosrbed with the outward, and inwardly void.

It pains me to think about standing in front of Allah(swt) and His Messenger on the Day of Judgement… When he(saw) intercedes for us, will we be ashamed of how we represented his legacy, and this beautiful Deen he passed down to us?

In dealing with our brothers and sisters, we should ask ourselves…How would the Prophet Muhammad(saw) carry himself in this situation? Remove our own nafs and our ego, and strive simply to act in a beautiful way, with hikma, as he(saw) would. And this advice is more to myself, than to anyone else.

May Allah(swt) place compassion in our hearts…

]]> By: Musa Maguire http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/convert-outflux/comment-page-1/#comment-10312 Musa Maguire Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:25:42 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=3715#comment-10312 Mashi, ya sheikh. malesh. Tahreer Koshary kwais, mia mia. Ash-Shatta wahishnee awee awee. Mashi, ya sheikh. malesh. Tahreer Koshary kwais, mia mia. Ash-Shatta wahishnee awee awee.

]]> By: Suhaib Webb http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/convert-outflux/comment-page-1/#comment-10299 Suhaib Webb Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:23:15 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=3715#comment-10299 Same brothers akhi Same brothers akhi

]]> By: Suhaib Webb http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/convert-outflux/comment-page-1/#comment-10298 Suhaib Webb Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:22:47 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=3715#comment-10298 Asalamu alaykum,<br><br>My wife would not agree with me asking for "Thick skin." Perhaps, "Skinny skin" but not thick :). Asalamu alaykum,

My wife would not agree with me asking for “Thick skin.” Perhaps, “Skinny skin” but not thick :) .

]]> By: Suhaib Webb http://www.suhaibwebb.com/islam-studies/convert-outflux/comment-page-1/#comment-10297 Suhaib Webb Sun, 22 Mar 2009 22:18:50 +0000 http://www.suhaibwebb.com/blog/?p=3715#comment-10297 Asalamu alaykum,<br><br>First the Wu Tang Clan and now Cinnabon! Akhi, your off the Manhaj? It's T.A.I.J "Than Allah Its Juma!" Asalamu alaykum,

First the Wu Tang Clan and now Cinnabon! Akhi, your off the Manhaj? It's T.A.I.J “Than Allah Its Juma!”

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